I recently heard Dr. John Macarthur say, "Jesus is no longer the Head of the church. The unregenerate sinner is." This seems to be the idea behind the Emerging church movement. That we should cater to the sinner to draw them in. What say you?

I say No! I was just commenting on this kind of thing this morning with my Mom. I have a friend who goes to one of the largest churches in the area. She says they have hundreds that join the church every Sunday. They speak in tongues there btw. People come to see a show and be entertained. The preacher has an altar call inviting people to join the church. In order to join, they have to say, "Yes, I believe in Jesus!" That is their entire salvation experience! No Holy Spirit, just a man giving a good show and increasing the number of people throwing money into the offering plate, I guess. What a farce!

I go to a smaller church. It can sit 750 but we probably have about 200 in Sunday School. Yet, every week, the Pastor reads the number of contacts in each Sunday School, and most Sunday's, the contacts are twice the attendance. This is the way that God builds a church. Through prayer and witnessing to folks.

Everyone wants to go to a feel good, nobody is all that bad kind of church. They do not want to attend a place where they get shook up and rattled by the Holy Spirit.

Lisa

Jeremy, the devil has ways of diverting our attention for his attack on the church. We must never neglect and always be aware of his tactics. We must fight any doctrine or heresies against the "true church". Did he (Dr. Macarthur) agree with this or was he just making a statement trying to prove a point?

By the way....Hey Jeremy!!! Glad to see you have joined us!!! We love you!!

Emergent church... sounds a lot like the Laodecian church..."ruled by the people". All the while, Jesus stands outside and knocks.

Good to see and hear from you all! I am especially glad to hear your discernment. I posted the question this way to spark your comments. Dr. McArthur was making a point that the emergent church has perverted the truth. CHRIST alone is to be the head of the Church! That is his point. A point on which I whole heartedly agree. But I am preaching to the choir. I wonder if someone else would have a different comment and would like to engage in this discussion? Or perhaps someone would propose another point or topic to discuss? Thanks for the feedback and thanks to Jeremy Sams for the invite.

Jeremy, didn't scare me...just relieved that Dr. McArthur was making a point...I like his preaching..Was hoping he had not fallen off into the deep black hole.........

Jeremy, check out Rob Bell talking about the "bullhorn" street preacher... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ouz24ibMiI
Then check this one out...it's pretty cool... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z9XorvaC4qs&fe ... lated

That was great! You guys wouldn't believe how many youth pastors have bought into the whole Rob Bell garbage! I get so sick of people telling me, "oh man you need to reed Blue like Jazz or Velvet Elvis" You wouldn't believe how many "Christians" are going down that road. I'm finding it more difficult to try and reason with them. I'll have to forward those video links to them. How about that ending passage of Scripture... BAM! that said it all! Sorry, I get a little passionate about this topic... can you tell?

Ronnie, don't worry McArthur is still solid. I got to see him the other week at a Pastors training.. it was a great blessing. I hope to see you all on Friday... LET'S GO CAMPING!!!

All I'm saying to this subject is JESUS IS THE CHURCH. The whole bible is JESUS. He is the beginning & the end. On JESUS solid rock we stand all other ground is sinking sand. Watch your back fellow christians
for the devil is here for one thing. TO DESTROY !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Pray for our Brothers & Sisters in CHRIST. FOR WITHOUT JESUS WE CAN DO ABSOLUTELY NOTHING. BY THE WAY WHATS UP PASTOR JEREMY?